As I tried to give my remarks at the public hearing this morning on HB4268 in defense of our constitutional property rights, I got dragged out of House chambers.
Why? Because I was listing out who has been donating to Delegates on the Judiciary Committee.
This is, of course, public information.
Allow me to point out that if Delegates genuinely think that my talking about who their campaign donors are—and how much they’re receiving from corporate lobbyists/corporate PACs—is an ad hominem attack… then they should be refusing those donations.
Yeah, refuse any donation that, if someone mentions it, makes you feel personally attacked.
Because that’s not an attack. That’s guilt. And you SHOULD be feeling that. Let that guilt about who you’re really working for inform your votes; don’t let the corporate money do it.
Watch the video, then read my remarks as prepared
Here is the vid
You may not be able to hear it very well, but I ended with a shout of…
Montani Semper Liberi!
I veered from the prepared remarks almost immediately… because I followed Woody Thrasher, who predictably said, more or less, “But we have to let corporations steal from mineral owners, because JOBS!”
(I paraphrase… but not that much.)
Prepared Remarks
I’m Lissa Lucas from beautiful Ritchie County, WV, right in the front lines of the Marcellus. I’m a mineral owner. And I’m here to tell you that ALL of us, no matter our party, want our property rights protected. The attack on property rights is an assault on rural people, and it goes against both party platforms.
While lobbyists have the money to buy your time at fancy gatherings like the Wine and Whisky gala at the Marriott on Wednesday—members of the public have been allotted just about 2 minutes each to make the case for our rights, so I’ll just have time to talk about four delegates.
CHARLOTTE LANE – Kanawha County (D35) $9,500/$48,770 about 20%
Delegate Lane has received money from
1. AEP $2,000.00
2. MARATHON $2,000.00
3. FIRSTENERGY $2,000.00
4. DOMINION $1,500.00
5. EQT $1,000.00 << 5 of the top 6
6. SOUTHWESTERN ENERGY $500.00
7. NEXTERA ENERGY $250.00
8. WVOIL MARKETERS ASSOC. $250.00
9. TIMOTHY P ARMSTEAD CAMPAIGN CMTE – $150.00 I’ll get to why I’m mentioning him in a minute
NEXT LET’S TALK ABOUT
JOHN SHOTT Mercer (D27) – $11,250/$64,350 – about 17%
1. FIRSTENERGY $2,000.00
2. App Power $2,000.00
3. STEPTOE & JOHNSON $2,000.00 – Gas and oil Law firm
4. CONSOL ENERGY $1,000.00
6. EQT $1,000.00
7. MARATHON $1,000.00
8. DOMINION $1,000.00
9. NOBLE ENERGY $500.00
10. GOPAC $250.00
11. MARKWEST ENERGY $250.00
12. WV LAND & MINERAL OWNERS PAC $250.00 The WV Mineral Owners Coalition is AGAINST this bill. This PAC is unrelated appears to be a front for out-of-state resource barons and attorneys who represent the energy industry.
NOW LET’S TALK ABOUT
JASON HARSHBARGER (Ritchie D7) $3500/$9300 – 38%
1. Harshbarger – He works for Dominion, and donated $2k to his campaign. If you count that, he got 59% of his campaign cash from energy interests $5500/$9300 –
2. DOMINION $1,000.00
3. EQT CORP $500.00
4. FIRSTENERGY CORP $500.00
5. FREDRIK ERIC NELSON JR CAMPAIGN CMTE $500.00 (Delegate Nelson’s top donors are the same top donors as everyone I’ve spoken about here, and in fact he received $23K from anti-property rights corporations like Dominion, EQT, AEP.)
6. NEXTERA ENERGY $250.00
7. GOPAC $250.00
8. HALL, JASON & STEPHANIE (Hall Drilling) $250.00
9. WEST VIRGINIA OIL MARKETERS & GROCERS ASSOCIATION $150.00
10. ARMSTEAD FOR HOUSE 2014 $150
Delegates you cannot, without the appearance of impropriety—and likely without actual impropriety—vote for this bill.
For those watching online or in the gallery, if your delegate votes to give away your rights to their corporate donors, you should get behind a candidate who’ll work for YOU, rather than someone who is getting paid to hand over your property rights to corporations. Save for Del Harshbarger, there are Republicans challenging them in the primary, and a Democrat who will challenge the winner, so in most cases there’s someone no matter your political persuasion.
Full disclosure: There is a Democratic challenger for Harshbarger—that would be me. But I’m here to talk about the sale of our constitutional rights, not to campaign. So let’s move on to Delegate Armstead.
Armstead is not a member of this committee, but he’s the guy who makes committee assignments for his party. His donors include the usual suspects—AEP, EQT, Dominion, FirstEnergy, etc. He got nearly $20K ($19,550) from energy donors, about 21% of his total. He seated on this committee everyone I’ve just talked about, and people I haven’t been allotted the time to talk about. Yeah, he’s working for those same donors, too.
Delegates, voting to help the corporations that bought you is moral turpitude. And if y’all vote to enable Big Government to tell tax paying citizens what we can do with our own durn property, you can bet there will be people like me coming out of the woodwork to challenge you… and to make sure you either represent the people, or you get the hell out.



February 12, 2018 at 2:06 am
Copy pasting a quote from the reddit thread –
*”When you tear out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”*
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February 12, 2018 at 5:42 am
I love this!
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February 12, 2018 at 2:10 am
Thank YOU! This is something they are afraid of, public information. Thank you for making this come to light.
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February 12, 2018 at 2:33 am
I’m on your side Lisa, i want you to succeed. So one piece of advice, learn the rules of decorum for your chambers! they kicked you out on a technicality (which is what they really are there for).
Try something like “I think it’s relevant to this bill to investigate the backers of this project. Public information shows tens of thousands of dollars donated by these special interests to the members of this committee..”
In my state, when they refer to each other, it’s always “the gentleman from the 40th district”, etc. you”’
I hope you get major kudos for
Persisting
Adapting
Using their own language against them
Thanks for your efforts =)
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February 12, 2018 at 5:41 am
Thanks for the good advice, and for the kind words.
Before the hearing started, they gave us a little primer: “no personal attacks” (also things like, “when your name is called, sit here…”). They didn’t say “no names.” If they had—or if Shott had interrupted to explain that the rules require I say “the gentleman from the Xth,”—I could easily have complied. I had the districts written down in my remarks, too.
I actually wasn’t sure if I’d be able to get everything read out in time, but I intended to stop when my time was called… because believe it or not, I’m sort of a rules-follower.
But… I have real trouble respecting authority that’s abused. He called it a personal attack, and it was no attack.
If in fact the issue was that I was using names rather than numbers, I wonder if they’ll improve the instructions for members of the public next time? And to be snarky ( because sometimes I can’t help myself ) my guess is that he probably allows his lobbyist buddies call him John when he’s whisky-ing it up with them. Ha!
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February 12, 2018 at 3:22 am
Thank you Lissa!
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February 12, 2018 at 4:05 am
“If you cut out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say”.
Yes, it was ridiculous of them to throw you out without letting you finish. But honestly, they shot themselves in the leg by doing that. The fact that they threw you out makes people want to know what you were going to say, because obviously they don’t want us to hear it. Good work!!
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February 12, 2018 at 5:31 am
Yes… Delegate Shott couldn’t have done a better job of bringing attention to the issue if he had stood up and read the names and dollar amounts himself. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment.
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February 12, 2018 at 4:10 am
Well done, a brave action.
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February 12, 2018 at 4:22 am
Fight the power. Regards from Spain.
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February 12, 2018 at 4:26 am
You rock!! Don’t give up. Not really informed on the issues of the bill, but from your statements, the video, and the comment not too far from the top, I think you are very courageous, and if you get another shot at Shotte, using the XYZ method above you can totally stick it to him and he can’t try to stop you under those terms again.
You’re a real, every day hero. Thanks so much for the inspiration!!
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February 12, 2018 at 5:30 am
That’s so kind of you. Thank you.
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February 12, 2018 at 5:05 am
The corporate take over of America is pretty much complete. It needs good honest people like yourself to try and take it back before they change the laws to crush any counter movement completely. Donated.
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February 12, 2018 at 5:28 am
Thanks so much!
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February 12, 2018 at 5:25 am
You, my lady, are the definition of a true patriot. Those other delegates who hate sunlight on their activities are not. They can stand on their head and spit corporate donation quarters in denial, but people like YOU are the ones who make America great and they are the people who make the cesspool we’re all mired in.
I’ve never heard of you before today (linked from the Huffington Post) but if Dems can get more people like you to run, we can take back this country from some very bad (and enormously greedy) people. I’d love to run but I live in a very blue district in a very blue state and my reps all vote the way I wish they would.
So for your effort and inspiring courage, I’m donating to your campaign – and I’m emailing the HuffPo article and the link to your blog to everyone on my mailing list.
You go girl!
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February 12, 2018 at 5:46 am
Lissa
Thank you for standing up for the land and it’s people. Money has destroyed much of this beautiful state. The people and the land are worth far more than mere dollars.
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February 12, 2018 at 5:47 am
Thanks, Marlena!
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February 12, 2018 at 6:12 am
You’re a boss!
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February 12, 2018 at 6:32 am
Brava! Brava! Thank You for bringing Integrity to the House. You have brought good news to the People by fighting the good fight. Thank You for inspiring many more positive future actions. Do not stop, Queen Lissa. To the game changers! Yes!
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February 12, 2018 at 6:52 am
I’m not even from your country , I visit all the time tho, and this is amazing work you are doing! Keep holding those in power responsible!
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February 12, 2018 at 6:58 am
You are a hero, Lissa. Keep shining.
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February 12, 2018 at 8:09 am
brave 🙂
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February 12, 2018 at 8:25 am
You are not alone. We the people stand with you!
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February 12, 2018 at 9:18 am
My new hero. This quote comes to mind, “Stand before the people you fear, and speak your mind – even if your voice shakes.” – Maggie Kuhn
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February 12, 2018 at 10:17 am
Good for you! You are a heroine!
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February 12, 2018 at 10:36 am
I just found your video on Reddit. We need more people like you to do exactly what you are doing. It takes guts to stand up there and speak the truth.
This isn’t a partisan issue- Politicians on both sides of the aisle take bribes from lobbyists to pass certain pieces of legislation. And this needs to end, period. Our country and our states are not for sale. This is not a game of monopoly. If you’re rich, buy a yacht. Buy a mansion. Buy a private island. But don’t try to buy my government.
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