As I tried to give my remarks at the public hearing this morning on HB4268 in defense of our constitutional property rights, I got dragged out of House chambers.
Why? Because I was listing out who has been donating to Delegates on the Judiciary Committee.
This is, of course, public information.
Allow me to point out that if Delegates genuinely think that my talking about who their campaign donors are—and how much they’re receiving from corporate lobbyists/corporate PACs—is an ad hominem attack… then they should be refusing those donations.
Yeah, refuse any donation that, if someone mentions it, makes you feel personally attacked.
Because that’s not an attack. That’s guilt. And you SHOULD be feeling that. Let that guilt about who you’re really working for inform your votes; don’t let the corporate money do it.
Watch the video, then read my remarks as prepared
Here is the vid
You may not be able to hear it very well, but I ended with a shout of…
Montani Semper Liberi!
I veered from the prepared remarks almost immediately… because I followed Woody Thrasher, who predictably said, more or less, “But we have to let corporations steal from mineral owners, because JOBS!”
(I paraphrase… but not that much.)
Prepared Remarks
I’m Lissa Lucas from beautiful Ritchie County, WV, right in the front lines of the Marcellus. I’m a mineral owner. And I’m here to tell you that ALL of us, no matter our party, want our property rights protected. The attack on property rights is an assault on rural people, and it goes against both party platforms.
While lobbyists have the money to buy your time at fancy gatherings like the Wine and Whisky gala at the Marriott on Wednesday—members of the public have been allotted just about 2 minutes each to make the case for our rights, so I’ll just have time to talk about four delegates.
CHARLOTTE LANE – Kanawha County (D35) $9,500/$48,770 about 20%
Delegate Lane has received money from
1. AEP $2,000.00
2. MARATHON $2,000.00
3. FIRSTENERGY $2,000.00
4. DOMINION $1,500.00
5. EQT $1,000.00 << 5 of the top 6
6. SOUTHWESTERN ENERGY $500.00
7. NEXTERA ENERGY $250.00
8. WVOIL MARKETERS ASSOC. $250.00
9. TIMOTHY P ARMSTEAD CAMPAIGN CMTE – $150.00 I’ll get to why I’m mentioning him in a minute
NEXT LET’S TALK ABOUT
JOHN SHOTT Mercer (D27) – $11,250/$64,350 – about 17%
1. FIRSTENERGY $2,000.00
2. App Power $2,000.00
3. STEPTOE & JOHNSON $2,000.00 – Gas and oil Law firm
4. CONSOL ENERGY $1,000.00
6. EQT $1,000.00
7. MARATHON $1,000.00
8. DOMINION $1,000.00
9. NOBLE ENERGY $500.00
10. GOPAC $250.00
11. MARKWEST ENERGY $250.00
12. WV LAND & MINERAL OWNERS PAC $250.00 The WV Mineral Owners Coalition is AGAINST this bill. This PAC is unrelated appears to be a front for out-of-state resource barons and attorneys who represent the energy industry.
NOW LET’S TALK ABOUT
JASON HARSHBARGER (Ritchie D7) $3500/$9300 – 38%
1. Harshbarger – He works for Dominion, and donated $2k to his campaign. If you count that, he got 59% of his campaign cash from energy interests $5500/$9300 –
2. DOMINION $1,000.00
3. EQT CORP $500.00
4. FIRSTENERGY CORP $500.00
5. FREDRIK ERIC NELSON JR CAMPAIGN CMTE $500.00 (Delegate Nelson’s top donors are the same top donors as everyone I’ve spoken about here, and in fact he received $23K from anti-property rights corporations like Dominion, EQT, AEP.)
6. NEXTERA ENERGY $250.00
7. GOPAC $250.00
8. HALL, JASON & STEPHANIE (Hall Drilling) $250.00
9. WEST VIRGINIA OIL MARKETERS & GROCERS ASSOCIATION $150.00
10. ARMSTEAD FOR HOUSE 2014 $150
Delegates you cannot, without the appearance of impropriety—and likely without actual impropriety—vote for this bill.
For those watching online or in the gallery, if your delegate votes to give away your rights to their corporate donors, you should get behind a candidate who’ll work for YOU, rather than someone who is getting paid to hand over your property rights to corporations. Save for Del Harshbarger, there are Republicans challenging them in the primary, and a Democrat who will challenge the winner, so in most cases there’s someone no matter your political persuasion.
Full disclosure: There is a Democratic challenger for Harshbarger—that would be me. But I’m here to talk about the sale of our constitutional rights, not to campaign. So let’s move on to Delegate Armstead.
Armstead is not a member of this committee, but he’s the guy who makes committee assignments for his party. His donors include the usual suspects—AEP, EQT, Dominion, FirstEnergy, etc. He got nearly $20K ($19,550) from energy donors, about 21% of his total. He seated on this committee everyone I’ve just talked about, and people I haven’t been allotted the time to talk about. Yeah, he’s working for those same donors, too.
Delegates, voting to help the corporations that bought you is moral turpitude. And if y’all vote to enable Big Government to tell tax paying citizens what we can do with our own durn property, you can bet there will be people like me coming out of the woodwork to challenge you… and to make sure you either represent the people, or you get the hell out.



February 9, 2018 at 6:56 pm
I love this! Thank you for speaking out against these corporations and the greedy representatives who they have in their back pockets. This state is continuing to allow the destruction of its natural beauty as well as taking away all of the rights of property owners. Disgusting!
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February 9, 2018 at 7:44 pm
Amen well said
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February 9, 2018 at 7:57 pm
Copy paste of my comment from reddit.com/r/sandersforpresident where this article was shared
While i fully support the move this lady made. Please watch the video its 2:30 long. And then note that this public hearing is to comment on the bill
In all frames. Listing names and then saying who pays them and how much does not address the bill itself and is an individual remark, outside the rules of the hearing.
The proper method to bring this issue to light while staying on form of the bill is this
X of the voting members for this bill were paid Y amount by Z corporations. Full lists and breakdowns are public information.
This bill is written in the interest of Z corporations. It benefits them by (List benefits) and harms normal people by (list harm’s) if this bill is passed its proof that X legislature members are bought and paid for and dont represent public opinion.
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February 9, 2018 at 8:23 pm
Thank you!!!!!
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February 9, 2018 at 9:04 pm
No man ANYWHERE is allowed to put his hands on a woman without her consent GET YOUR SELF A GOOD LAWYER LADY
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February 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm
Thanks so much for your concern, I genuinely appreciate that you would worry for me. But that said, I assure you those guys were very professional, gentle, and super nice. They were firm but did not once make me feel any jeopardy. The fault is Delegate Shott’s for having them escort someone out for something like this. Outrageous! Shott should have just let me have my measly 1:45. There are a lot of people who couldn’t travel down there so early in the morning and I was doing my best to speak for them. We’re having a corporate invasion in my district and every damn one of our national representatives—and a good number of our state representatives—are working for the invaders. They spend hours talking to these slimy blackguards, yet won’t come and talk to the people who are being affected by this stuff. We need basic damn services, and they’re wasting time trying to give our property rights away. Our homes and farms are all most of us have in the world of value.
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February 9, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Amsted is one corrupt individual. Good for you for calling them out !
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February 9, 2018 at 10:45 pm
Go Girl!
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February 9, 2018 at 10:47 pm
How does one arrange to speak before the legislator?
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February 9, 2018 at 11:11 pm
This was a public hearing. So I drove to Charleston on the day, sat outside until they opened the doors, went through security, walked to the chamber, waited for the paperwork to arrive, then signed my name to a list of speakers and waited to be called.
You can do that for less than two minutes of time, or you can be a lobbyist with a bunch of money who throws a party for them at the Marriott
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February 10, 2018 at 2:48 am
Good for YOU !!!! I’m sharing this far and wide !!! I can only guess how much my Delegate is getting from BIG ENERGY !!!
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February 10, 2018 at 10:29 am
Lissa’s comments about campaign donations by gas and oil are totally appropriate in addressing HB4268 because our citizens have a right to know any potential influence by donors. That is not personal but PUBLIC information. Anyone who says that breaks the rules makes me suspect they are paid by gas and oil to do so.
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February 10, 2018 at 11:41 am
Lissa, Thank you for sharing this. It’s disgusting what these delegates are doing. Is there more to this list of delgates and donors? If not, where can I find out what my delegate took from donors?
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February 10, 2018 at 12:48 pm
Scottie, you can find the site here (I linked it above, too, in the text): https://votesmart.org/candidate/campaign-finance/103257/john-shott#.Wn7XIudOnIV
You can search out your delegates, but a little counter-intuitively (for me) it doesn’t take you anywhere until you choose a tab (like funding). So search for your rep, and then click a tab, and it should take you there.
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February 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm
If I’ve said it once,I’ve said it a thousand times. People need to voice their opinion on politics,and term limits,and politicians accepting money from big companies. WV.and the U.S.needs to make a clean sweep come election time. Term limits will stop a lot of big business from running our political agenda. It would take a revolution to change things,but we have to start somewhere. If you don’t do anything else in your life,get out ,and vote against these career politicians. If not,you and your children will have to pay the price!
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February 10, 2018 at 2:32 pm
These Delegates think they are Holier than you are nothing but Crooked politicians that will go to Church on Sunday, rub elbows with the Hypocrite Flock and think they are something. They will still
Be Crooked.
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February 11, 2018 at 4:43 pm
Thank you for speaking out Lisa. I admire your determination and honesty. The way you were treated was not democratic. I look forward to learning more about you and your platform.
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February 11, 2018 at 4:56 pm
Are you on actblue? Im sharing this far and eide, would like to give people a link to donate to your campaign.
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February 11, 2018 at 5:00 pm
Yes, I am. You can find the links here.
Thanks so much! Even just $10 helps.
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February 11, 2018 at 6:06 pm
Thank you for speaking up
You have listed out loud, PUBLIC INFORMATION of elected officials and the donor list therein! They’re afraid of you Ms Lucas and if I were you, I would sue the men who put their hands on you and forced you out. They had no right to touch you!! Bring them to court and make that public!!
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February 12, 2018 at 5:28 am
The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of Delegate Shott, for sure. The guards were actually very professional, seemed apologetic, and didn’t hurt me or make me fear. I had chatted with some of them earlier, before the hearing (little thinking!). But please don’t blame them for Delegate Shott’s bad judgment. They don’t get paid nearly enough.
I really appreciate your concern for my safety, though. It’s tuching to think so many strangers were worried about me.
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February 11, 2018 at 11:38 pm
Donated from CT. Wish I was closer and could volunteer for your campaign! Please be careful as you speak truth to power. Your peril will grow in proportion to your impact, and these folks play for keeps. Watch your back.
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February 12, 2018 at 5:48 am
It’s so nice of you to be concerned for me—thank you.
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February 12, 2018 at 12:38 am
That was incredible. You weren’t outing anyone’s personal business. This is on the record. They are so afraid of the truth, Lissa. Thank you!
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February 12, 2018 at 12:48 am
You’re awesome for this! I’m from New Jersey, but I think what you did here is worthy of a lot of praise. You properly informed the people and stood for the people. After highshool, I hope and plan to do exactly what you’re doing. 🙂
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February 12, 2018 at 5:47 am
Thanks so much, David! I hope you do great things in your life.
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February 12, 2018 at 1:38 am
Love this, please keep doing what you’re doing. I hope to be like you one day you’re very inspiring. Power to the people. Thank you (:
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February 12, 2018 at 1:51 am
You made it to the front page of reddit. If nothing else that should be further proof that what you’re doing is supported by the public. Keep fighting the good fight Lissa not Lisa!
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February 12, 2018 at 5:45 am
I know, this seems completely crazy to me!
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February 12, 2018 at 1:52 am
Seems all they accomplished by throwing you out was getting you the front page of Reddit and turning a local issue into one seen worldwide.
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February 12, 2018 at 5:45 am
Seriously! If he’d just allowed me the last 20-some seconds (or however much I had left), I don’t think it would ever have made the papers. It’s not like I’d found new information no one else had ever heard before, something that no one else could find unless I spoke it aloud. It wasn’t deep investigative reporting. It was info based on their own campaign finance reporting.
It’s like our legislators don’t think things through, hm….
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